{"id":14577,"date":"2026-01-26T15:45:16","date_gmt":"2026-01-26T15:45:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jobuzo.com\/en\/a-particular-brand-of-carnage-has-taken-hold-here-in-america\/"},"modified":"2026-01-26T15:45:16","modified_gmt":"2026-01-26T15:45:16","slug":"a-particular-brand-of-carnage-has-taken-hold-here-in-america","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jobuzo.com\/en\/a-particular-brand-of-carnage-has-taken-hold-here-in-america\/","title":{"rendered":"A particular brand of carnage has taken hold here in America"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<div class=\"sc-6c4043fd-0 iMiTqM sc-766e4dae-2 iAyUda\">\n<div class=\"sc-f9e3ccff-0 cGFoDo\" readability=\"6.3137254901961\"><button aria-checked=\"false\" aria-label=\"Save article to read later\" role=\"switch\" type=\"button\" class=\"sc-f9e3ccff-1 vaiky\"><svg fill=\"none\" height=\"24\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"1.5\" viewbox=\"0 0 24 24\" width=\"24\" class=\"sc-d1b14060-0 bRyYMS\"><path d=\"M5.75 4C5.75 3.86193 5.86193 3.75 6 3.75H18C18.1381 3.75 18.25 3.86193 18.25 4L18.25 19.7709L12.8004 16.9682C12.2981 16.7099 11.7019 16.7099 11.1996 16.9682L5.75 19.7709L5.75 4Z\"><\/path><\/svg><span class=\"sc-f9e3ccff-2 lamxUD\">Save<\/span><\/button>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"sc-ba6ddcd9-0 BgjOX sc-d1b14060-3 bnLMbo\" role=\"tooltip\" readability=\"8.0816326530612\">\n<p class=\"sc-d1b14060-4 NcyxX\">You have reached your maximum number of saved items.<\/p>\n<p>Remove items from your saved list to add more.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><button aria-label=\"Set font size to normal\" aria-pressed=\"true\" class=\"sc-f7fd8257-1 fKewKr\">A<\/button><button aria-label=\"Set font size to larger\" aria-pressed=\"false\" class=\"sc-f7fd8257-1 kfmQUR\">A<\/button><button aria-label=\"Set font size to very large\" aria-pressed=\"false\" class=\"sc-f7fd8257-1 kfmPpl\">A<\/button><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"sc-80607c67-0 byCHjx\" readability=\"42.588339222615\">\n<p><strong>Minneapolis:<\/strong> Local activist and chef Michael Wilson is leading the crowd in a tribute to Minneapolis nurse Alex Pretti when a woman kneeling beside the memorial suddenly emits a guttural scream. &ldquo;Peace,&rdquo; she yells. &ldquo;Peace.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>Then, another woman begins shouting: &ldquo;I&rsquo;m a nurse. We want peace.&rdquo; Soon, the hundred or so other mourners gathered on the side of the road begin to follow these two strangers in a chant: &ldquo;All. Nurses. Want. Peace.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>It is spontaneous, awkward and raw. But it is real. It is also freezing &ndash; minus 20 degrees &ndash; which does not stop the crowds growing as the day wears on.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"sc-5119f468-1 gWZKFv\">\n<div imagesizes=\"[object Object]\" class=\"sc-d2942506-0 jGrSmI\"><picture><source media=\"(min-width: 1000px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.378%2C$multiply_1.0648%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/c8c7d49515b785365957dce1115b1d6f609b90f4, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.378%2C$multiply_2.1296%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/c8c7d49515b785365957dce1115b1d6f609b90f4 2x\"><source media=\"(min-width: 750px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.378%2C$multiply_0.9206%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/c8c7d49515b785365957dce1115b1d6f609b90f4, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.378%2C$multiply_1.8413%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/c8c7d49515b785365957dce1115b1d6f609b90f4 2x\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Crowds at the memorial for Alex Pretti on Sunday, the day after he was shot and killed by a federal law enforcement agent in Minneapolis.\" aspectratios=\"[object Object]\" loading=\"eager\" src=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/%24zoom_0.378,%24multiply_0.7725,%24ratio_1.5,%24width_756,%24x_0,%24y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86,f_auto\/c8c7d49515b785365957dce1115b1d6f609b90f4\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.378%2C$multiply_0.7725%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/c8c7d49515b785365957dce1115b1d6f609b90f4, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.378%2C$multiply_1.545%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/c8c7d49515b785365957dce1115b1d6f609b90f4 2x\" class=\"sc-d2942506-1 wgbit\"><\/source><\/source><\/picture><\/div><figcaption data-testid=\"figure-caption\" class=\"sc-4820f69c-0 hMRMLa\"><span>Crowds at the memorial for Alex Pretti on Sunday, the day after he was shot and killed by a federal law enforcement agent in Minneapolis.<\/span><cite class=\"sc-4820f69c-2 jnumBu\"><span class=\"sc-4820f69c-3 jkEJCb\">Bloomberg<\/span><\/cite><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"internal-linking-related-contents\"><a href=\"https:\/\/jobuzo.com\/en\/12-weeks-jail-for-school-it-support-technician-who-took-upskirt-videos-of-teachers\/\" class=\"template-1\"><span class=\"cta\">News :<\/span><span class=\"postTitle\">&lt;div&gt;12 weeks' jail for school IT support technician who took upskirt videos of teachers&lt;\/div&gt;<\/span><\/a><\/div><p>Wilson takes back control. &ldquo;This man was a medic, y&rsquo;all,&rdquo; he booms. &ldquo;He was a nurse. For veterans. Wow, y&rsquo;all. They&rsquo;re telling us two plus two equals five. They&rsquo;re telling us a nurse for the VA [Veterans Affairs] was a domestic terrorist.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>Pretti&rsquo;s death on Saturday at the hands of federal immigration agents shocked the nation. But here in Minneapolis, where Renee Good, another 37-year-old American citizen, was shot dead by federal agents just three weeks ago, and where George Floyd was killed by police in 2020, there is something more than shock. There is all-out despair.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;I&rsquo;m grieving,&rdquo; says Debbie Claypool, a 58-year-old from nearby Fridley who works in advertising. &ldquo;I&rsquo;m grieving for democracy. This is fascism. I&rsquo;m a child of a mother that was a German Jew in Nazi Germany, so this kind of hits home for me. This can&rsquo;t happen. We&rsquo;ve got to get rid of ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement].&rdquo;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"sc-766e4dae-3 euoXSR\">\n<div class=\"container\">\n<div class=\"sc-54c4a04e-0 eOWbJd adWrapper noPrint sc-3f16ee48-9 sc-766e4dae-4 blNacz jUtkKA\" data-testid=\"ad\"><small class=\"sc-54c4a04e-2 kRjajv\">Advertisement<\/small><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"sc-80607c67-0 byCHjx\" readability=\"28\">\n<p>That seems to be the consensus view on the streets of Whittier, the suburb where Pretti was killed. Bus stops are covered in &ldquo;F&mdash; ICE&rdquo; graffiti. Shop windows are full of posters for protests or legal advice for immigrants: &ldquo;Know your rights.&rdquo; At the Spyhouse coffee shop, a graffiti tag takes it up a notch. &ldquo;Kill ICE,&rdquo; it says.<\/p>\n<p>When Donald Trump was first elected president, he delivered a disturbingly dark inauguration speech on the steps of the Capitol. Mothers and children were trapped in poverty; rusted-out factories were &ldquo;scattered like tombstones&rdquo; across the country; crime and gangs and drugs were ruining lives.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Warning: Video may distress some viewers<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"internal-linking-related-contents\"><a href=\"https:\/\/jobuzo.com\/en\/migrant-acquitted-in-first-trial-over-us-border-military-zones\/\" class=\"template-1\"><span class=\"cta\">News :<\/span><span class=\"postTitle\">Migrant acquitted in first trial over US border military zones<\/span><\/a><\/div><p>&ldquo;This American carnage stops right here and stops right now,&rdquo; Trump said.<\/p>\n<p>But in Minneapolis, it feels like a particular brand of American carnage has taken hold. Squads of masked men patrolling the streets; federal police pitted against local; the government in conflict with its own citizens; hate scrawled on every corner and anger spewing from every mouth.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"sc-5119f468-1 gWZKFv\">\n<div imagesizes=\"[object Object]\" class=\"sc-d2942506-0 jGrSmI\"><picture><source media=\"(min-width: 1000px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.252%2C$multiply_1.0648%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/058563ab0d33d3e4fcb062ab6a4965db0d4f3181, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.252%2C$multiply_2.1296%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/058563ab0d33d3e4fcb062ab6a4965db0d4f3181 2x\"><source media=\"(min-width: 750px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.252%2C$multiply_0.9206%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/058563ab0d33d3e4fcb062ab6a4965db0d4f3181, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.252%2C$multiply_1.8413%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/058563ab0d33d3e4fcb062ab6a4965db0d4f3181 2x\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Candlelit vigils were held for Alex Pretti on Saturday night, hours after he was killed.\" aspectratios=\"[object Object]\" loading=\"eager\" src=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/%24zoom_0.252,%24multiply_0.7725,%24ratio_1.5,%24width_756,%24x_0,%24y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86,f_auto\/058563ab0d33d3e4fcb062ab6a4965db0d4f3181\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.252%2C$multiply_0.7725%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/058563ab0d33d3e4fcb062ab6a4965db0d4f3181, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.252%2C$multiply_1.545%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/058563ab0d33d3e4fcb062ab6a4965db0d4f3181 2x\" class=\"sc-d2942506-1 wgbit\"><\/source><\/source><\/picture><\/div><figcaption data-testid=\"figure-caption\" class=\"sc-4820f69c-0 hMRMLa\"><span>Candlelit vigils were held for Alex Pretti on Saturday night, hours after he was killed.<\/span><cite class=\"sc-4820f69c-2 jnumBu\"><span class=\"sc-4820f69c-3 jkEJCb\">AP<\/span><\/cite><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"sc-766e4dae-3 euoXSR\">\n<div class=\"container\">\n<div class=\"sc-54c4a04e-0 eOWbJd adWrapper noPrint sc-3f16ee48-9 sc-766e4dae-4 blNacz jUtkKA\" data-testid=\"ad\"><small class=\"sc-54c4a04e-2 kRjajv\">Advertisement<\/small><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"sc-80607c67-0 byCHjx\" readability=\"40\">\n<p>It&rsquo;s a carnage of the soul, not the scenery. The city itself is a winter wonderland; something out of a film. Front lawns of storybook cottages and Craftsman bungalows are doused in white snow. Even with the sun shining all day, it&rsquo;s so cold that there&rsquo;s no chance it will melt.<\/p>\n<p>The Trump administration has made an example of Minneapolis, more so than Los Angeles or Chicago, or any other blue city it has targeted. At the same time, 3000 ICE agents have been dispatched here, and Trump and his team have mercilessly pursued the state&rsquo;s governor, Tim Walz, over an alleged welfare fraud scandal involving Somali migrants, and accused him and other Democrat leaders of encouraging hysteria about ICE and thereby being responsible for the deaths of Good and Pretti.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"sc-5119f468-1 gWZKFv\">\n<div imagesizes=\"[object Object]\" class=\"sc-d2942506-0 jGrSmI\"><picture><source media=\"(min-width: 1000px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.15%2C$multiply_1.0648%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/914cbbcc61eb271c73f83754e0d7a33e35d2ebca, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.15%2C$multiply_2.1296%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/914cbbcc61eb271c73f83754e0d7a33e35d2ebca 2x\"><source media=\"(min-width: 750px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.15%2C$multiply_0.9206%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/914cbbcc61eb271c73f83754e0d7a33e35d2ebca, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.15%2C$multiply_1.8413%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/914cbbcc61eb271c73f83754e0d7a33e35d2ebca 2x\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"A protester is detained by federal agents this month near the scene where Renee Good was fatally shot by an ICE officer.\" aspectratios=\"[object Object]\" loading=\"eager\" src=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/%24zoom_0.15,%24multiply_0.7725,%24ratio_1.5,%24width_756,%24x_0,%24y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86,f_auto\/914cbbcc61eb271c73f83754e0d7a33e35d2ebca\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.15%2C$multiply_0.7725%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/914cbbcc61eb271c73f83754e0d7a33e35d2ebca, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.15%2C$multiply_1.545%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/914cbbcc61eb271c73f83754e0d7a33e35d2ebca 2x\" class=\"sc-d2942506-1 wgbit\"><\/source><\/source><\/picture><\/div><figcaption data-testid=\"figure-caption\" class=\"sc-4820f69c-0 hMRMLa\"><span>A protester is detained by federal agents this month near the scene where Renee Good was fatally shot by an ICE officer.<\/span><cite class=\"sc-4820f69c-2 jnumBu\"><span class=\"sc-4820f69c-3 jkEJCb\">AP Photo\/Adam Gray<\/span><\/cite><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&ldquo;This level of engineered chaos is unique to Minneapolis,&rdquo; Vice President JD Vance said on X. &ldquo;It is the direct consequence of far-left agitators, working with local authorities.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>There is certainly an element of agitation and professional activism. At the memorial for Pretti, a woman leads the crowd in the Lord&rsquo;s Prayer. Afterwards, she tells me her name is Josephine Guilbeau. She is from Ohio, and came to Minneapolis straight from the &ldquo;Tech for Palestine&rdquo; summit in San Francisco.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"sc-5119f468-1 gWZKFv\">\n<div imagesizes=\"[object Object]\" class=\"sc-d2942506-0 jGrSmI\"><picture><source media=\"(min-width: 1000px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.21%2C$multiply_1.0648%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/e4c5dd1647d16e17f4d708904b621e3728337ccc, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.21%2C$multiply_2.1296%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/e4c5dd1647d16e17f4d708904b621e3728337ccc 2x\"><source media=\"(min-width: 750px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.21%2C$multiply_0.9206%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/e4c5dd1647d16e17f4d708904b621e3728337ccc, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.21%2C$multiply_1.8413%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/e4c5dd1647d16e17f4d708904b621e3728337ccc 2x\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"A person holds up their hands as law enforcement deploys a thick screen of tear gas on Nicollet Avenue in Minneapolis on Saturday.\" aspectratios=\"[object Object]\" loading=\"eager\" src=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/%24zoom_0.21,%24multiply_0.7725,%24ratio_1.5,%24width_756,%24x_0,%24y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86,f_auto\/e4c5dd1647d16e17f4d708904b621e3728337ccc\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.21%2C$multiply_0.7725%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/e4c5dd1647d16e17f4d708904b621e3728337ccc, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.21%2C$multiply_1.545%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/e4c5dd1647d16e17f4d708904b621e3728337ccc 2x\" class=\"sc-d2942506-1 wgbit\"><\/source><\/source><\/picture><\/div><figcaption data-testid=\"figure-caption\" class=\"sc-4820f69c-0 hMRMLa\"><span>A person holds up their hands as law enforcement deploys a thick screen of tear gas on Nicollet Avenue in Minneapolis on Saturday.<\/span><cite class=\"sc-4820f69c-2 jnumBu\"><span class=\"sc-4820f69c-3 jkEJCb\">AP<\/span><\/cite><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>A former US Army intelligence analyst, Guilbeau was marched from a Senate hearing in handcuffs last year for interrupting to accuse senators of being complicit in war crimes in Gaza.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"sc-766e4dae-3 euoXSR\">\n<div class=\"container\">\n<div class=\"sc-54c4a04e-0 eOWbJd adWrapper noPrint sc-3f16ee48-9 sc-766e4dae-4 blNacz jUtkKA\" data-testid=\"ad\"><small class=\"sc-54c4a04e-2 kRjajv\">Advertisement<\/small><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"sc-80607c67-0 byCHjx\" readability=\"42.323198942498\">\n<p>&ldquo;I flew in this morning because I needed to mourn,&rdquo; she says. &ldquo;I want to mourn what I&rsquo;m witnessing. I don&rsquo;t want to make this normal. I don&rsquo;t want anyone in this country to normalise what we&rsquo;re witnessing.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<aside data-testid=\"related-story\" class=\"sc-4dc7bff5-0 QbJUT\">\n<h2 data-testid=\"related-story-heading\" class=\"sc-4dc7bff5-1 fNPBEP\">Related Article<\/h2>\n<div data-an-position=\"1\" imagepositions=\"top\" data-testid=\"story-tile\" class=\"sc-679b6ed4-0 cMGLSH\">\n<figure imagesizes=\"[object Object]\" class=\"sc-8825a2fb-0 hUTlgn\">\n<div imagesizes=\"[object Object]\" class=\"sc-d2942506-0 jGrSmI\"><picture><source media=\"(min-width: 1000px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.18716861081654293%2C$multiply_0.2805%2C$ratio_1.777778%2C$width_1059%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/db5f85630cfc76b71c274859ac4434e73cba1260, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.18716861081654293%2C$multiply_0.5609%2C$ratio_1.777778%2C$width_1059%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/db5f85630cfc76b71c274859ac4434e73cba1260 2x\"><source media=\"(min-width: 750px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.18716861081654293%2C$multiply_0.2842%2C$ratio_1.777778%2C$width_1059%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/db5f85630cfc76b71c274859ac4434e73cba1260, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.18716861081654293%2C$multiply_0.5685%2C$ratio_1.777778%2C$width_1059%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/db5f85630cfc76b71c274859ac4434e73cba1260 2x\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Protesters advance towardsfederal agents with their hands up near the site of the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti.\" aspectratios=\"[object Object]\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/%24zoom_0.18716861081654293,%24multiply_0.5127,%24ratio_1.777778,%24width_1059,%24x_0,%24y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86,f_auto\/db5f85630cfc76b71c274859ac4434e73cba1260\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.18716861081654293%2C$multiply_0.5127%2C$ratio_1.777778%2C$width_1059%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/db5f85630cfc76b71c274859ac4434e73cba1260, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.18716861081654293%2C$multiply_1.0255%2C$ratio_1.777778%2C$width_1059%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/db5f85630cfc76b71c274859ac4434e73cba1260 2x\" class=\"sc-d2942506-1 ffXaNQ\"><\/source><\/source><\/picture><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/aside>\n<p>In this environment, it can be difficult to gauge what average citizens think. But polls show most Americans are uneasy about ICE&rsquo;s tactics, and rate Trump negatively on immigration, even if they back his moves to close the southern border. That is especially so among Democrats, and Minneapolis is one of America&rsquo;s bluest cities.<\/p>\n<p>Outside the Spyhouse coffee shop, I ask passerby Liz Lee how she feels about what&rsquo;s happening in her neighbourhood.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;It&rsquo;s generally so unsettling even if you&rsquo;re not a protester to feel like on any given corner, street, anywhere, you just walk out of your home and there could be armed agents taking you down, taking community members down, detaining observers,&rdquo; she says. &ldquo;This, right outside our homes. It&rsquo;s just wild.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<figure class=\"sc-5119f468-1 gWZKFv\">\n<div imagesizes=\"[object Object]\" class=\"sc-d2942506-0 jGrSmI\"><picture><source media=\"(min-width: 1000px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.151%2C$multiply_1.0648%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/c61b713ded6a7ced8bf9cde450c867dce9bfab7a, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.151%2C$multiply_2.1296%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/c61b713ded6a7ced8bf9cde450c867dce9bfab7a 2x\"><source media=\"(min-width: 750px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.151%2C$multiply_0.9206%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/c61b713ded6a7ced8bf9cde450c867dce9bfab7a, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.151%2C$multiply_1.8413%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/c61b713ded6a7ced8bf9cde450c867dce9bfab7a 2x\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"People take part in a noise demonstration protest.\" aspectratios=\"[object Object]\" loading=\"eager\" src=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/%24zoom_0.151,%24multiply_0.7725,%24ratio_1.5,%24width_756,%24x_0,%24y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86,f_auto\/c61b713ded6a7ced8bf9cde450c867dce9bfab7a\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.151%2C$multiply_0.7725%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/c61b713ded6a7ced8bf9cde450c867dce9bfab7a, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.151%2C$multiply_1.545%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/c61b713ded6a7ced8bf9cde450c867dce9bfab7a 2x\" class=\"sc-d2942506-1 wgbit\"><\/source><\/source><\/picture><\/div><figcaption data-testid=\"figure-caption\" class=\"sc-4820f69c-0 hMRMLa\"><span>People take part in a noise demonstration protest.<\/span><cite class=\"sc-4820f69c-2 jnumBu\"><span class=\"sc-4820f69c-3 jkEJCb\">AP<\/span><\/cite><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Lee, 28, says her neighbours have formed a group chat where they will share information about ICE agents&rsquo; activities nearby. &ldquo;A lot of us are just peaceful observers,&rdquo; she says. &ldquo;We&rsquo;re not getting involved, we&rsquo;re not stepping in, and we&rsquo;re still at risk of getting detained. It just seems against everything that this country was built for.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"sc-766e4dae-3 euoXSR\">\n<div class=\"container\">\n<div class=\"sc-54c4a04e-0 eOWbJd adWrapper noPrint sc-3f16ee48-9 sc-766e4dae-4 blNacz jUtkKA\" data-testid=\"ad\"><small class=\"sc-54c4a04e-2 kRjajv\">Advertisement<\/small><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"sc-80607c67-0 byCHjx\" readability=\"48\">\n<p>But then, in an Uber heading downtown, I get a different perspective from a thirty-something man who moved here 18 months ago from New York. He declines to tell me his name, stressing that he tries not to get involved in this kind of political debate.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;I don&rsquo;t understand the protesters&rsquo; argument,&rdquo; he says. &ldquo;&lsquo;ICE out&rsquo;. All right. But they are federal agents sent here federally, with Supreme Court approval, getting people who ostensibly are here illegally. No country in the world allows people to sit there illegally. Although I don&rsquo;t know if any country in the world goes [about it] like this.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<figure class=\"sc-5119f468-1 gWZKFv\">\n<div imagesizes=\"[object Object]\" class=\"sc-d2942506-0 jGrSmI\"><picture><source media=\"(min-width: 1000px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.132%2C$multiply_1.0648%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/1d5c77e343f42ba1e54e77d7f932815618a81c97, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.132%2C$multiply_2.1296%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/1d5c77e343f42ba1e54e77d7f932815618a81c97 2x\"><source media=\"(min-width: 750px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.132%2C$multiply_0.9206%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/1d5c77e343f42ba1e54e77d7f932815618a81c97, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.132%2C$multiply_1.8413%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/1d5c77e343f42ba1e54e77d7f932815618a81c97 2x\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"A protester speaks to a Minnesota State Patrol officer near the site of the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti.\" aspectratios=\"[object Object]\" loading=\"eager\" src=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/%24zoom_0.132,%24multiply_0.7725,%24ratio_1.5,%24width_756,%24x_0,%24y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86,f_auto\/1d5c77e343f42ba1e54e77d7f932815618a81c97\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.132%2C$multiply_0.7725%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/1d5c77e343f42ba1e54e77d7f932815618a81c97, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.132%2C$multiply_1.545%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/1d5c77e343f42ba1e54e77d7f932815618a81c97 2x\" class=\"sc-d2942506-1 wgbit\"><\/source><\/source><\/picture><\/div><figcaption data-testid=\"figure-caption\" class=\"sc-4820f69c-0 hMRMLa\"><span>A protester speaks to a Minnesota State Patrol officer near the site of the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti.<\/span><cite class=\"sc-4820f69c-2 jnumBu\"><span class=\"sc-4820f69c-3 jkEJCb\">Ellen Schmidt\/MinnPost via AP<\/span><\/cite><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The Uber driver declares he is not a right-winger. &ldquo;But I understand the right-wing argument more than I understand the left-wing argument. If the left wing wanted to come up to me and say to me, &lsquo;We think the current immigration law is bogus, and it needs to be changed and more inclusive&rsquo;, well then, all right, now I get your argument. I&rsquo;m not hearing that argument. I don&rsquo;t even know what the argument is.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>He repeats a common refrain from critics of these protests: How much of it is really about immigration, and how much is just hatred of Trump? Later, he adds: &ldquo;I don&rsquo;t have a problem with ICE doing their job, but I&rsquo;ve got a problem with ICE doing their job poorly. If they&rsquo;re shooting people left and right that don&rsquo;t deserve to be shot, or otherwise could be handled better, well then I would prefer not.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<figure class=\"sc-5119f468-1 gWZKFv\">\n<div imagesizes=\"[object Object]\" class=\"sc-d2942506-0 jGrSmI\"><picture><source media=\"(min-width: 1000px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.088%2C$multiply_1.0648%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/beca37b470db410565e344a52f62e1b3a402c8e4, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.088%2C$multiply_2.1296%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/beca37b470db410565e344a52f62e1b3a402c8e4 2x\"><source media=\"(min-width: 750px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.088%2C$multiply_0.9206%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/beca37b470db410565e344a52f62e1b3a402c8e4, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.088%2C$multiply_1.8413%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/beca37b470db410565e344a52f62e1b3a402c8e4 2x\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Hundreds of demonstrators gathered in downtown Minneapolis for a snap rally.\" aspectratios=\"[object Object]\" loading=\"eager\" src=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/%24zoom_0.088,%24multiply_0.7725,%24ratio_1.5,%24width_756,%24x_0,%24y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86,f_auto\/beca37b470db410565e344a52f62e1b3a402c8e4\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.088%2C$multiply_0.7725%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/beca37b470db410565e344a52f62e1b3a402c8e4, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.088%2C$multiply_1.545%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/beca37b470db410565e344a52f62e1b3a402c8e4 2x\" class=\"sc-d2942506-1 wgbit\"><\/source><\/source><\/picture><\/div><figcaption data-testid=\"figure-caption\" class=\"sc-4820f69c-0 hMRMLa\"><span>Hundreds of demonstrators gathered in downtown Minneapolis for a snap rally.<\/span><cite class=\"sc-4820f69c-2 jnumBu\"><span class=\"sc-4820f69c-3 jkEJCb\">AP<\/span><\/cite><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Back in the CBD, hundreds of demonstrators convened for a snap rally in the early afternoon, as the temperature peaked at minus 16 degrees. Among them was Carolyn Pare, 69, a former Minnesota resident who moved back to Wisconsin but returned to protest in the aftermath of Pretti&rsquo;s death.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"sc-766e4dae-3 euoXSR\">\n<div class=\"container\">\n<div class=\"sc-54c4a04e-0 eOWbJd adWrapper noPrint sc-3f16ee48-9 sc-766e4dae-4 blNacz jUtkKA\" data-testid=\"ad\"><small class=\"sc-54c4a04e-2 kRjajv\">Advertisement<\/small><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"sc-80607c67-0 byCHjx\" readability=\"37.733927434755\">\n<p>&ldquo;We are three old, retired white ladies,&rdquo; Pare says. &ldquo;Got a lot of time on our hands. Can dedicate that time to a bigger purpose than corporate reality &ndash; which we all lived in. Now we&rsquo;ve decided we need to pay it back and tell people what it really looks like, and not let it happen.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>I ask Pare whether her views are widespread; if her friends and neighbours agree with her. She says Wisconsin and Minnesota are very different places, despite being adjacent states. Once again, the great American divide comes into play.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"sc-5119f468-1 gWZKFv\">\n<div imagesizes=\"[object Object]\" class=\"sc-d2942506-0 jGrSmI\"><picture><source media=\"(min-width: 1000px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.132%2C$multiply_1.0648%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_31\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/5d319cb530dfdf475bb9f0a796c7fa89c9f5c234, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.132%2C$multiply_2.1296%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_31\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/5d319cb530dfdf475bb9f0a796c7fa89c9f5c234 2x\"><source media=\"(min-width: 750px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.132%2C$multiply_0.9206%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_31\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/5d319cb530dfdf475bb9f0a796c7fa89c9f5c234, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.132%2C$multiply_1.8413%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_31\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/5d319cb530dfdf475bb9f0a796c7fa89c9f5c234 2x\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"&ldquo;We&rsquo;re three old, retired, white ladies&rdquo;: Carolyn Pare (right) at an anti-ICE protest march the day after Pretti&rsquo;s death.\" aspectratios=\"[object Object]\" loading=\"eager\" src=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/%24zoom_0.132,%24multiply_0.7725,%24ratio_1.5,%24width_756,%24x_0,%24y_31\/t_crop_custom\/q_86,f_auto\/5d319cb530dfdf475bb9f0a796c7fa89c9f5c234\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.132%2C$multiply_0.7725%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_31\/t_crop_custom\/q_86%2Cf_auto\/5d319cb530dfdf475bb9f0a796c7fa89c9f5c234, https:\/\/static.ffx.io\/images\/$zoom_0.132%2C$multiply_1.545%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_31\/t_crop_custom\/q_62%2Cf_auto\/5d319cb530dfdf475bb9f0a796c7fa89c9f5c234 2x\" class=\"sc-d2942506-1 wgbit\"><\/source><\/source><\/picture><\/div><figcaption data-testid=\"figure-caption\" class=\"sc-4820f69c-0 hMRMLa\"><span>&ldquo;We&rsquo;re three old, retired, white ladies&rdquo;: Carolyn Pare (right) at an anti-ICE protest march the day after Pretti&rsquo;s death.<\/span><cite class=\"sc-4820f69c-2 jnumBu\"><span class=\"sc-4820f69c-3 jkEJCb\">Michael Koziol<\/span><\/cite><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&ldquo;Wisconsin is a red state, and they&rsquo;re all a bunch of assholes,&rdquo; Pare says. &ldquo;Back here, they were never assholes, they were always really nice people that cared for one another &hellip; You&rsquo;ll find pockets of rednecks [in Minnesota] that believe in bad things; for the most part, we just don&rsquo;t.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>I ask Pare about the Trump administration&rsquo;s argument: that the dead protesters should not have been there; should not have impeded a law enforcement operation; should not have gone looking for trouble.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;No!&rdquo; she exclaims. &ldquo;Nobody deserves to die. George Floyd didn&rsquo;t deserve to die. Who are we that we&rsquo;re all so judgmental that we can say who deserves to live and die? The reality is what we&rsquo;re doing to people is just awful.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p><b><i>Get a note directly from our foreign <\/i><\/b><b><i>correspondents <\/i><\/b><b><i>on what&rsquo;s making headlines around the world. <\/i><\/b><b><i>Sign up for our weekly What in the World newsletter<\/i><\/b><b><i>.<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><sub>A particular brand of carnage has taken hold here in America<\/sub><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Save You have reached your maximum number of saved items. Remove items from your saved list to add more. AAA Minneapolis: Local activist and chef Michael Wilson is leading the crowd in a tribute to Minneapolis nurse Alex Pretti when a woman kneeling beside the memorial suddenly emits a guttural scream. &ldquo;Peace,&rdquo; she yells. &ldquo;Peace.&rdquo;&#8230;<\/p>\n<p class=\"more-link-wrap\"><a href=\"https:\/\/jobuzo.com\/en\/a-particular-brand-of-carnage-has-taken-hold-here-in-america\/\" class=\"more-link\">Read More<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &ldquo;A particular brand of carnage has taken hold here in America&rdquo;<\/span> &raquo;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":14578,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-14577","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jobuzo.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14577","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jobuzo.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jobuzo.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jobuzo.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jobuzo.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14577"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/jobuzo.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14577\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jobuzo.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/14578"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jobuzo.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14577"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jobuzo.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14577"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jobuzo.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14577"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}